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[FLPatriot59] T = TONY | C = CALLER
TONY - Good morning, TNT! It's Monday, October 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM EDT. Whoever thought we'd be here - surely not me. I know you have good question, but the biggest question is "why are we having this call instead of an RV call?" I'm going to give you an answer and you probably won't like it. I can tell you this: everything that needed to be done has been done. The meeting in Iraq with the HCL went through. Everything has been worked out. The banks were on high alert all weekend - 5 different states have already called in their staffs and we've heard it should go "live" sometime today. The issue is timing and who's going to take credit for it. By timing I mean where does it show up first, which country will it show first, etc.
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Notes from FlPatriot59 at I4U:
[FLPatriot59] T = TONY | C = CALLER
TONY - Good morning, TNT! It's Monday, October 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM EDT. Whoever thought we'd be here - surely not me. I know you have good question, but the biggest question is "why are we having this call instead of an RV call?" I'm going to give you an answer and you probably won't like it. I can tell you this: everything that needed to be done has been done. The meeting in Iraq with the HCL went through. Everything has been worked out. The banks were on high alert all weekend - 5 different states have already called in their staffs and we've heard it should go "live" sometime today. The issue is timing and who's going to take credit for it. By timing I mean where does it show up first, which country will it show first, etc.
T - The other questions is "are we back to egos?" I know they want to separate it from the budget and debt ceiling debate. But they can't separate it because once it happens we'll have everything covered. And then what do they tell the general public? How do they do this without losing face and who gets credit. I say all that to say this: this is coming from 1 person that we have people checking it out right this moment. PLEASE HOLD ON FOR A MINUTE WHILE TONY CHECKS WITH ANOTHER SOURCE.....
T - that was probably the most important thing I had to do today. I got a call from Iraq that it was just announced on their TV that they now have the highest currency and reserves in that area of the world. It's supposed to be scrolling across the bottom of their TVs 15 minutes ago. That was done to confirm that it went live for 20 minutes between 7-7:30 AM this morning then it was placed on an admin hold.
T - 2nd Confirmation just arrived: US Embassy on High Alert in Iraq in anticipation for "RV Craziness." I'll be getting texts all during this call. We've been waiting for the release in Iraq first, so that's what we're getting in right now. If you can't handle it emotionally hang up because we're getting it as it comes in. This is what's being broadcast on Iraqi TV right now.
T - That's what is happening - up to the minutes news happening right now. Monday morning Q&A from chat starting now.
Q - why was your info wrong? What happened this time? A - I don't know that it was wrong but the situation changes and there is more than 1 person making decisions. A lot of what I shared on Friday went over a lot of people's heads. It's a situation that involves many people around the world and it's not a simple thing. It's about the budget negotiations, debt ceiling, money brokers, people in other countries, etc. This is a very complex situation. Even businesses operate like this. It changes quickly.
Q - If $300T was used to push this through, why is it not done yet? Who paid this money? A - The Chinese were involved in the $300T and they didn't want money, they wanted oil. They are highly upset that it didn't go during that 72-hour period as agreed upon. It was discussed yesterday and this morning.
Q - Is everything going as thought? A - Yes, the timeframe for today is set. They are calling their people in for today, so let's hope it goes through this time. If I get it from a few more people during this call I'll tell you.
Q - How can banks afford to pay these people to come in for nothing? A - The banks are calling in their people again because UST is instructing them. UST is paying their OT to bring in their people. They've already called them in twice now and now we're hearing the morale is down because they have been called in multiple times for nothing. Banks know that regardless of the OT they know they're going to make it up when you make your deposit. So when they're told to go to the starting blocks they go.
Q - How is WF explaining this to their employees? A - WF is being very careful as to how they framed this event. They are well-trained in their wording to employees.
T - JUST GOT ANOTHER CONFIRMATION: It is on TV over there! DC guys just confirmed with his guys.
T - Re: employees, the banks have been told to be careful that they're going to have rogue employees when this happen. They do expect this and have something in place for this. Watch your accounts - there will be some backlash.
Q - If Lew facilitated the Kuwait RV, why did Clinton pass a law? A - We were not allowed to use those funds because of the agreement, nothing to do with Kuwait and Clinton. Whole new circumstances. This GCR is not 1 country and not 1 currency.
Q - How can you know the rates when nobody is supposed to know beforehand? A - No one was supposed to see them before the RV took place, but we do know it took place on a higher level. People we know have told us the floor and the ceiling rate. It's steady, no holds there. All banks we contact and 5 other countries and they all agree on what they are seeing. Probably not an operating rate. Everything we've seen supports that rate.
Q - Regarding the call center personnel, are they bonded to provide security? Which number do we call? A - each bank will have their own 800#. WF is the only bank with a group 800#. None of the others, as far as we know, have group numbers. Regarding the employees, they have signed NDAs, they're bank employees. It's just a call center where people are taking info, i.e., your name, email address, amount of dinar. That's all. They don't run background checks and security on these employees.
T - A week ago Friday all the bank employees, on thatFriday morning, were brought in and told that any info they give out could mean they would be prosecuted.
"LIVE" Q&A FROM CALLER STARTING NOW....C = CALLER | T = TONY
C - $300T was paid to ensure it happened in a timeframe and they didn't do it? T - This is bigger than a regular business deal. This isn't anything new to them. They get upset about it and do it anyway. They didn't do it in the 72 hours and now it's looking like it's being done in 96 hours and the Chinese know they won't get it back.
T - Just received 4th confirmation of info being broadcast on Iraqi TV that they have the highest reserves in the world now.
C - If it goes at the time they expect today, can we go to the bank today? A - If it goes today, yes. You have to remember that those bank employees are scheduled to work until11PM in all time zones. They have been instructed that within 2 hours of the announcement the first people can come into the banks
C - Was the powerful female figure Chinese? T - No, that was Christine LeGarde.
C - Per the Stage2Omega post today, is it possible that some cashed out during that 20 minutes today? T - the word going around is that's why they did it
T - I have to take a little break in here for a minute and share something that may be a little scary. I got some info a week ago and I didn't really share it with you guys. There are people on our site and other sites who are not good people. They form little groups to come on here and share negative stuff. We know who they are. There's another group of people who have little groups who've been PMs out to get you to become their friends, share your email addresses, etc. Some of you are falling prey to something that's going on several sites. There are investigations going on about people who are building databases off your. Remember: just because you met somebody on the internet doesn't make them your friend. These guys are pros - they get it a little at a time and complie it. It's been going on for years. I don't know who they all are - I know who some of them are. But this morning I just want to tell you to be careful.
T - at least 4 different agencies are monitoring this site. I told you that post-RV there will be people will be escorted away. Just be careful and know that somebody has planned all along to take your money from you because they've gotten a lot of information from you. I would absolutely buy a new computer - these guys do this for a living. I've been warned and reminded again today. I received official notification about this about a month ago.
C - How realistic is the possiblity of the government masking the RV with a Cypress thing? T - That's a big 0% possibility.
C - what's the rate today? T - the goal was to get to $30 but today the rate is $27.87. They want to have the bulk of people done in the 1st 4 days. The are pushing those rates high to get peopel in and out so nobody would question it.
C - What's the VND rate? T - $3.87
C - How did you get into this investment? T - Dan called me about this and stayed on me for about 3 months and finally I did it. I didn't want to get on the calls, but he got sick one week and he needed me to be with him. It just went from there. No good deed goes unpunished and believe me there has been plenty of punishment with this.
T - Yesterday I was talking with some friends, ex-Marine who was in Kuwait. He did not buy any out of peer pressure, but all the officers bought some and then he saw people making $1-2M when they got home.
C - I have concerns about giving my name when I call. T - cash in 1 note and set up your trusts then call the 800#. I've been told that with WF you can take in 1 $25K note and cash it in to set up your trust or foundation. If you're confused about this get on the OMC and ask Rayren all the questions you need to.
C - With WF perpetrating the false narrative it seems some are hesitant to put their money there. TD Bank is more neutral, for example. T - It's not just 1 bank, it's banks all across the board. What are you going to do? Stuff your info in your mattress? People always bring up WF because they are the ones giving us the most info.
T - MORE CONFIRMATION FROM IRAQ JUST RECEIVED - Boots on the ground are confirming what Tony is saying.
C - Will there still be a 24-hour hold or maybe 72 hours? T - I know the banks are getting ready for this evening. My understanding is that auctions were stopped weeks ago and haven't taken place in weeks.
C - From what I've heard is Lloyds of London a good way to insure funds? T - from what I've heard it's a smart play to be done. Not all banks know about it so keep asking up the food chain until you get the info.
C - Who is backing up this money? T - The UST is backing up this money with oil credits. It is all digital. The average amount of IQD with 5M people is $100K IQD. 5M didn't actually get involved. Maybe 600K-700K did but may given it to others, which is what created the 5M people.
C - Have you heard anymore from the dealers that they will be able to meet the bank rates? T - They will meet the CBI rate, not the market rate. There is a new CBI site that is supposed to come up the minute this is announced. But if 5 other countries see our rate they may force the CBI to show that as well.
C - Do you think this can be stopped because of budget negotiations? T - No, because the info is out on the street in Iraq that they now have the highest currency in the region. We have 6 confirmations and I don't think the budget talks can stop this. It maybe tomorrow before it gets to us, or maybe like this afternoon like it's planned. I'm thinking anytime after 3PM EDT you might see it.
C - You said they're going to change the CBI website? T - yes, we got a peek at it in January and you will be automatically directed to it when it changes and is "live."
C - It would nice to have a list of questions to say or do when we go to the bank. T - Check our Forum for the top 10 questions to ask.
T - They made the rates high enough for you to take your money and go. There is more so you can ask and they'll have to get authorization to go above $25.87. That's alot of money!
C - is the VND rate fixed for 30 days or can it carry over to the 1st of the year? T - It's not going to carry over and it's not a fixed rate. When the IQD comes out, look at Kuwait's rate. Regardless of how high it comes out, it will come down to near the KWD rate. We know where the VND should come out based on Iraq, so you should know how far down it will go.
C - When you call for your appointment, can one family member call for the other family members? T - don't know. You'll have to ask them when you call.
C - When the RV happens can we walk into any bank and exchange VND? T - yes, it's already internationally tradeable.
C - Is WF the only bank confirmed to exchange 1 note before the main exchange? T - Yes as of right now.
C - When are you coming to Atlanta? T - I will be in Atlanta and will try to do something while I'm there with the locals.
C - Is there a negotiable ceiling rate on the VNN? T - Yes.
C - Went into a WF here in the midwest and spoke with a Private Banker. We are much more informed than they are. I got the impression they want to control your money, i.e., invest it in securities, stock market, etc., so people have idea of the pressure you'll get from the financial institutions. You need to have tough skin.
T - This is what these guys do all the time. It's their job so they can influence you. They get paid regardless of what happens with your money. The more times they move your money around they more they make. If that banker knew about the IQD they wouldn't be a VP, they'd retire. He may be a VP but he's still working for a living. There's a saying: "if everyone was in the parade, who would be watching?" We'll do it my way.
T - When I was in real estate I bought my 1st 7 houses with no money down. I went through all the classes. The 1st house I bought for $1K and made $47K a short time later. The last house I bought I told the realtor I wanted to close in 10 days. Realtor said it couldn't be done, but we did. Banks have rules to follow. You have to go in and tell them how you want to do this. They have a good process they are used to so you have to go in with a different mind set.
C - Since Iraq has announced it's done there, are we just waiting for CBI to change their rates? Is Iraq back in the driver's seat? T - No, Iraq is following protocol. I don't know if it's DC trying to figure out how to spend this new money and tell the public they've been arguing for nothing and the 17th doesn't really matter? They have to figure out how to spend this so they don't all look crazy, how to explain arguing over cuts when they'll have the money. How do they bring this out in public? They said maybe by the 17th but how can they wait since it's been announced in Iraq?
T - During this call we got confirmations saying it's on their TV but people are in the chat rooms saying it's not showing on TV. Well, turn the channel. All of these people cannot be confirming it and it's not happening. You may not see it on satellite TV here in US.
C - Why would the bank need an email address when you call the 800#? What about people who don't have computers? T - I was told they would ask for 3 identifiers: name, email address and zip.
TECHNICAL PROBLEMS WITH CALL....PLEASE STAND BY.
C - 2 weeks ago you said there were 5 states for exchanging the IQD? T - no, I said there were call centers in 5 states. All states are doing the exchange.
C - On a scale of 1-10 happens today, happens this week, happens this month? T - Definitely will happen this month because it won't go past the debt ceiling. With info coming out today I feel 99% we will see it tonight or tomorrow.
T - Everything is good. All agreements are in place. We are awaiting an activation time. It is scheduled for this evening or tomorrow morning. It's not about us - this deal wasn't put together for us. We will see how they make it look to the public. It's about countries and global economies for the next 300-400 years. It's not about us. I've gotten 6 confirmations that it's being announced in Iraq that they now have the highest currency in the region and the world. These are all different sources, gov't agencies and contractors. I have 6 confirmations that it is happening right now on their TVs, even tho some are saying they can't see it. That's okay. Let's see what happens and hopefully I'll be doing another call today. We should be seeing it rather soon. If something happens that will affect your day I will do a blast. Enjoyo your day!
END OF CALL.
T - that was probably the most important thing I had to do today. I got a call from Iraq that it was just announced on their TV that they now have the highest currency and reserves in that area of the world. It's supposed to be scrolling across the bottom of their TVs 15 minutes ago. That was done to confirm that it went live for 20 minutes between 7-7:30 AM this morning then it was placed on an admin hold.
T - 2nd Confirmation just arrived: US Embassy on High Alert in Iraq in anticipation for "RV Craziness." I'll be getting texts all during this call. We've been waiting for the release in Iraq first, so that's what we're getting in right now. If you can't handle it emotionally hang up because we're getting it as it comes in. This is what's being broadcast on Iraqi TV right now.
T - That's what is happening - up to the minutes news happening right now. Monday morning Q&A from chat starting now.
Q - why was your info wrong? What happened this time? A - I don't know that it was wrong but the situation changes and there is more than 1 person making decisions. A lot of what I shared on Friday went over a lot of people's heads. It's a situation that involves many people around the world and it's not a simple thing. It's about the budget negotiations, debt ceiling, money brokers, people in other countries, etc. This is a very complex situation. Even businesses operate like this. It changes quickly.
Q - If $300T was used to push this through, why is it not done yet? Who paid this money? A - The Chinese were involved in the $300T and they didn't want money, they wanted oil. They are highly upset that it didn't go during that 72-hour period as agreed upon. It was discussed yesterday and this morning.
Q - Is everything going as thought? A - Yes, the timeframe for today is set. They are calling their people in for today, so let's hope it goes through this time. If I get it from a few more people during this call I'll tell you.
Q - How can banks afford to pay these people to come in for nothing? A - The banks are calling in their people again because UST is instructing them. UST is paying their OT to bring in their people. They've already called them in twice now and now we're hearing the morale is down because they have been called in multiple times for nothing. Banks know that regardless of the OT they know they're going to make it up when you make your deposit. So when they're told to go to the starting blocks they go.
Q - How is WF explaining this to their employees? A - WF is being very careful as to how they framed this event. They are well-trained in their wording to employees.
T - JUST GOT ANOTHER CONFIRMATION: It is on TV over there! DC guys just confirmed with his guys.
T - Re: employees, the banks have been told to be careful that they're going to have rogue employees when this happen. They do expect this and have something in place for this. Watch your accounts - there will be some backlash.
Q - If Lew facilitated the Kuwait RV, why did Clinton pass a law? A - We were not allowed to use those funds because of the agreement, nothing to do with Kuwait and Clinton. Whole new circumstances. This GCR is not 1 country and not 1 currency.
Q - How can you know the rates when nobody is supposed to know beforehand? A - No one was supposed to see them before the RV took place, but we do know it took place on a higher level. People we know have told us the floor and the ceiling rate. It's steady, no holds there. All banks we contact and 5 other countries and they all agree on what they are seeing. Probably not an operating rate. Everything we've seen supports that rate.
Q - Regarding the call center personnel, are they bonded to provide security? Which number do we call? A - each bank will have their own 800#. WF is the only bank with a group 800#. None of the others, as far as we know, have group numbers. Regarding the employees, they have signed NDAs, they're bank employees. It's just a call center where people are taking info, i.e., your name, email address, amount of dinar. That's all. They don't run background checks and security on these employees.
T - A week ago Friday all the bank employees, on thatFriday morning, were brought in and told that any info they give out could mean they would be prosecuted.
"LIVE" Q&A FROM CALLER STARTING NOW....C = CALLER | T = TONY
C - $300T was paid to ensure it happened in a timeframe and they didn't do it? T - This is bigger than a regular business deal. This isn't anything new to them. They get upset about it and do it anyway. They didn't do it in the 72 hours and now it's looking like it's being done in 96 hours and the Chinese know they won't get it back.
T - Just received 4th confirmation of info being broadcast on Iraqi TV that they have the highest reserves in the world now.
C - If it goes at the time they expect today, can we go to the bank today? A - If it goes today, yes. You have to remember that those bank employees are scheduled to work until11PM in all time zones. They have been instructed that within 2 hours of the announcement the first people can come into the banks
C - Was the powerful female figure Chinese? T - No, that was Christine LeGarde.
C - Per the Stage2Omega post today, is it possible that some cashed out during that 20 minutes today? T - the word going around is that's why they did it
T - I have to take a little break in here for a minute and share something that may be a little scary. I got some info a week ago and I didn't really share it with you guys. There are people on our site and other sites who are not good people. They form little groups to come on here and share negative stuff. We know who they are. There's another group of people who have little groups who've been PMs out to get you to become their friends, share your email addresses, etc. Some of you are falling prey to something that's going on several sites. There are investigations going on about people who are building databases off your. Remember: just because you met somebody on the internet doesn't make them your friend. These guys are pros - they get it a little at a time and complie it. It's been going on for years. I don't know who they all are - I know who some of them are. But this morning I just want to tell you to be careful.
T - at least 4 different agencies are monitoring this site. I told you that post-RV there will be people will be escorted away. Just be careful and know that somebody has planned all along to take your money from you because they've gotten a lot of information from you. I would absolutely buy a new computer - these guys do this for a living. I've been warned and reminded again today. I received official notification about this about a month ago.
C - How realistic is the possiblity of the government masking the RV with a Cypress thing? T - That's a big 0% possibility.
C - what's the rate today? T - the goal was to get to $30 but today the rate is $27.87. They want to have the bulk of people done in the 1st 4 days. The are pushing those rates high to get peopel in and out so nobody would question it.
C - What's the VND rate? T - $3.87
C - How did you get into this investment? T - Dan called me about this and stayed on me for about 3 months and finally I did it. I didn't want to get on the calls, but he got sick one week and he needed me to be with him. It just went from there. No good deed goes unpunished and believe me there has been plenty of punishment with this.
T - Yesterday I was talking with some friends, ex-Marine who was in Kuwait. He did not buy any out of peer pressure, but all the officers bought some and then he saw people making $1-2M when they got home.
C - I have concerns about giving my name when I call. T - cash in 1 note and set up your trusts then call the 800#. I've been told that with WF you can take in 1 $25K note and cash it in to set up your trust or foundation. If you're confused about this get on the OMC and ask Rayren all the questions you need to.
C - With WF perpetrating the false narrative it seems some are hesitant to put their money there. TD Bank is more neutral, for example. T - It's not just 1 bank, it's banks all across the board. What are you going to do? Stuff your info in your mattress? People always bring up WF because they are the ones giving us the most info.
T - MORE CONFIRMATION FROM IRAQ JUST RECEIVED - Boots on the ground are confirming what Tony is saying.
C - Will there still be a 24-hour hold or maybe 72 hours? T - I know the banks are getting ready for this evening. My understanding is that auctions were stopped weeks ago and haven't taken place in weeks.
C - From what I've heard is Lloyds of London a good way to insure funds? T - from what I've heard it's a smart play to be done. Not all banks know about it so keep asking up the food chain until you get the info.
C - Who is backing up this money? T - The UST is backing up this money with oil credits. It is all digital. The average amount of IQD with 5M people is $100K IQD. 5M didn't actually get involved. Maybe 600K-700K did but may given it to others, which is what created the 5M people.
C - Have you heard anymore from the dealers that they will be able to meet the bank rates? T - They will meet the CBI rate, not the market rate. There is a new CBI site that is supposed to come up the minute this is announced. But if 5 other countries see our rate they may force the CBI to show that as well.
C - Do you think this can be stopped because of budget negotiations? T - No, because the info is out on the street in Iraq that they now have the highest currency in the region. We have 6 confirmations and I don't think the budget talks can stop this. It maybe tomorrow before it gets to us, or maybe like this afternoon like it's planned. I'm thinking anytime after 3PM EDT you might see it.
C - You said they're going to change the CBI website? T - yes, we got a peek at it in January and you will be automatically directed to it when it changes and is "live."
C - It would nice to have a list of questions to say or do when we go to the bank. T - Check our Forum for the top 10 questions to ask.
T - They made the rates high enough for you to take your money and go. There is more so you can ask and they'll have to get authorization to go above $25.87. That's alot of money!
C - is the VND rate fixed for 30 days or can it carry over to the 1st of the year? T - It's not going to carry over and it's not a fixed rate. When the IQD comes out, look at Kuwait's rate. Regardless of how high it comes out, it will come down to near the KWD rate. We know where the VND should come out based on Iraq, so you should know how far down it will go.
C - When you call for your appointment, can one family member call for the other family members? T - don't know. You'll have to ask them when you call.
C - When the RV happens can we walk into any bank and exchange VND? T - yes, it's already internationally tradeable.
C - Is WF the only bank confirmed to exchange 1 note before the main exchange? T - Yes as of right now.
C - When are you coming to Atlanta? T - I will be in Atlanta and will try to do something while I'm there with the locals.
C - Is there a negotiable ceiling rate on the VNN? T - Yes.
C - Went into a WF here in the midwest and spoke with a Private Banker. We are much more informed than they are. I got the impression they want to control your money, i.e., invest it in securities, stock market, etc., so people have idea of the pressure you'll get from the financial institutions. You need to have tough skin.
T - This is what these guys do all the time. It's their job so they can influence you. They get paid regardless of what happens with your money. The more times they move your money around they more they make. If that banker knew about the IQD they wouldn't be a VP, they'd retire. He may be a VP but he's still working for a living. There's a saying: "if everyone was in the parade, who would be watching?" We'll do it my way.
T - When I was in real estate I bought my 1st 7 houses with no money down. I went through all the classes. The 1st house I bought for $1K and made $47K a short time later. The last house I bought I told the realtor I wanted to close in 10 days. Realtor said it couldn't be done, but we did. Banks have rules to follow. You have to go in and tell them how you want to do this. They have a good process they are used to so you have to go in with a different mind set.
C - Since Iraq has announced it's done there, are we just waiting for CBI to change their rates? Is Iraq back in the driver's seat? T - No, Iraq is following protocol. I don't know if it's DC trying to figure out how to spend this new money and tell the public they've been arguing for nothing and the 17th doesn't really matter? They have to figure out how to spend this so they don't all look crazy, how to explain arguing over cuts when they'll have the money. How do they bring this out in public? They said maybe by the 17th but how can they wait since it's been announced in Iraq?
T - During this call we got confirmations saying it's on their TV but people are in the chat rooms saying it's not showing on TV. Well, turn the channel. All of these people cannot be confirming it and it's not happening. You may not see it on satellite TV here in US.
C - Why would the bank need an email address when you call the 800#? What about people who don't have computers? T - I was told they would ask for 3 identifiers: name, email address and zip.
TECHNICAL PROBLEMS WITH CALL....PLEASE STAND BY.
C - 2 weeks ago you said there were 5 states for exchanging the IQD? T - no, I said there were call centers in 5 states. All states are doing the exchange.
C - On a scale of 1-10 happens today, happens this week, happens this month? T - Definitely will happen this month because it won't go past the debt ceiling. With info coming out today I feel 99% we will see it tonight or tomorrow.
T - Everything is good. All agreements are in place. We are awaiting an activation time. It is scheduled for this evening or tomorrow morning. It's not about us - this deal wasn't put together for us. We will see how they make it look to the public. It's about countries and global economies for the next 300-400 years. It's not about us. I've gotten 6 confirmations that it's being announced in Iraq that they now have the highest currency in the region and the world. These are all different sources, gov't agencies and contractors. I have 6 confirmations that it is happening right now on their TVs, even tho some are saying they can't see it. That's okay. Let's see what happens and hopefully I'll be doing another call today. We should be seeing it rather soon. If something happens that will affect your day I will do a blast. Enjoyo your day!
END OF CALL.
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